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Originally Posted by ihateu on mtbr
This is how it ended
I figured it was the right time to post this thread. First off, let it be know what I am about to say in this post is 100% true and can be backed up by articles released in many bicycle magazines as well as hands on experience. So I will also state that what I am saying here is not made up and I am leaving out many thing more things that would have you as a person and a rider disgusted .
Ironhorse is done. 100% . For those here who know who I am know this is true and I have not exagerrated this information at all. I kind of wish it was not true.
I was there on the last day at IH. The inventory was all sold. The parts, frames, and pivot kits were sold to a liquidater. I was there, I helped pack up the trucks. All the hard work that many of us put in to this company to succeed by purchasing pivot kits, links, frames, decals etc etc all sold for a measley amount. With the help of others, I had helped provide enough frames and parts for more than five years after the DW link license expired. All sold and the online retailer has NOTHING. Ironhorse was ruined by an incompetent owner as well as shady business deals where the company as a whole lost money but the greedy ones made money.
While at IH, I worked with up to 35 people to have each week people be let go for unnamed reasons. I had my health insurance contribution cut dramatically out of nowhere and it was not during an enrollment peroid. It was so someone could pocket more cash.. I wish IH went down because of the economy but it didn't. Yes of course there is cuts at any business during times but I would be OK with that as long as peoples family members were not on the payroll that never worked for us. I would be OK with that if inventory was not transferred to an online company at no cost. but it wasn't. My only thing was IH and the online retailer are owned by the same owners. The things I saw how bikes were being credited that were never paid for.
I am a bicycle mechanic as well and i work for an IBD. I support IBD's not online retailers that don't care about the sport only to capitalize by illegal gains. The online retailer claims to have 100% customers service but in reality it was IH customer service who sent out all the parts. Any little complaint by an online customer putting pedals on the wrong way was covered by IH not the online retailer. As many claims that were put down b/c they are not valid, they were still shipped. We would be charged by the online retailer for shipping damage not UPS. When I saw a post here that " we hope to be your online retailer for bicycles" I was sick. I do understand getting a good price, how could you complain but when IH had IBD's and the online retailer was selling bikes for less than IH was paying for them you see my reaction. You should understand that these small IBD's are the bike industry not online. How about this one. I am an IBD I pay $1400 from IH at my costt price and then the online retailer has it for $1000. How could that be. Its b/c when product is free, you can sell it at any cost.
Also, IH has there recall issues that are not known about b/c each time i tried to have a recall issued. I was ignored, almost lost my job. Here are some of the recalls that should be know about:
IH Maverick Full Suspension frames from 2006-2008 will all break b/c of a weak brace.
IH MKIII 2007 rear swingarms will all crack due to incorrect welding at the factory.
Please help and call the CPSC if you had this issue. http://www.cpsc.gov/about/contact.html
There is no Iron horse warranty on your bikes anymore. The online retailer may be able to break down some bikes to cover this up for a while but they have no pivots kits. They cannot order any frames from the factory anymore.
I read in Outdoor magazine that working at bicycle company was the 4th most enjoying job except at IH.
We had good people, we were bringing the brand back but greedy people did this to IH. From my understanding IH is bankrupt, they have no money, no nothing. There is no office. I had set it up to support DW bikes after the license was over but someone needed money and from what i know about the price of what it was sold for, it was chump change .
I am not an angry employee but a person who believes this needs to be brought up to others to see how it is. I have a job that pays me better than IH so let that me known as well as I enjoy my job way more.
There are so many things I could write but let me end off on this, I cannot be sued for this since it is 100% true. I have documentation to back up all of my claims.
Cliff W. is the reason IH is not here anymore as well as the online retailer that has the "great deals". I am sure that will be over as well. There is no support for you and I apologize. All in All working at IH has helped me meet some really great people like Ska todd and some of you. I had my good times and working at a company like this has shown me who to work for and who not to.
I just figured you guys should know the truth and for those who know me please contact me by PM and leave my name off of this thread.
I am willing to answer any questions you have but if you have a warranty issue I recommend contacting that online retailer and see what speech they have for you already.
The Poster: Wolvesinwolvesclothing was a 100% right in all his post that were removed.
Its a shame someone wants to threaten lawsuits over the truth. Just remember if you want to sue, you have to go on the stand as well. I guess like father like son.
Sell your horse or ride till its dead but from my stand point, I gave my bikes away as well as anything that had to do with IH. I am fine with my direction in life but I am sad for others like an employee who worked for that man for 26 years and got nothing, no appreciation. At one point years ago IH took there pension plan and spent it without the employers knowing it.
Good luck and I hope this clears things up. I know the online retailer sponsors this thread and MTBR and moderators please contact me for confirmation of everything i have written. I can confirm everything and back it up. If this thread is removed, it is because MTBR wants to keep getting paid by a fraud online retailor. I hope this stays but if it doesn't I recommend getting a new bike as well as going to another forum due to the conflict of interests.
This is how it ended
I figured it was the right time to post this thread. First off, let it be know what I am about to say in this post is 100% true and can be backed up by articles released in many bicycle magazines as well as hands on experience. So I will also state that what I am saying here is not made up and I am leaving out many thing more things that would have you as a person and a rider disgusted .
Ironhorse is done. 100% . For those here who know who I am know this is true and I have not exagerrated this information at all. I kind of wish it was not true.
I was there on the last day at IH. The inventory was all sold. The parts, frames, and pivot kits were sold to a liquidater. I was there, I helped pack up the trucks. All the hard work that many of us put in to this company to succeed by purchasing pivot kits, links, frames, decals etc etc all sold for a measley amount. With the help of others, I had helped provide enough frames and parts for more than five years after the DW link license expired. All sold and the online retailer has NOTHING. Ironhorse was ruined by an incompetent owner as well as shady business deals where the company as a whole lost money but the greedy ones made money.
While at IH, I worked with up to 35 people to have each week people be let go for unnamed reasons. I had my health insurance contribution cut dramatically out of nowhere and it was not during an enrollment peroid. It was so someone could pocket more cash.. I wish IH went down because of the economy but it didn't. Yes of course there is cuts at any business during times but I would be OK with that as long as peoples family members were not on the payroll that never worked for us. I would be OK with that if inventory was not transferred to an online company at no cost. but it wasn't. My only thing was IH and the online retailer are owned by the same owners. The things I saw how bikes were being credited that were never paid for.
I am a bicycle mechanic as well and i work for an IBD. I support IBD's not online retailers that don't care about the sport only to capitalize by illegal gains. The online retailer claims to have 100% customers service but in reality it was IH customer service who sent out all the parts. Any little complaint by an online customer putting pedals on the wrong way was covered by IH not the online retailer. As many claims that were put down b/c they are not valid, they were still shipped. We would be charged by the online retailer for shipping damage not UPS. When I saw a post here that " we hope to be your online retailer for bicycles" I was sick. I do understand getting a good price, how could you complain but when IH had IBD's and the online retailer was selling bikes for less than IH was paying for them you see my reaction. You should understand that these small IBD's are the bike industry not online. How about this one. I am an IBD I pay $1400 from IH at my costt price and then the online retailer has it for $1000. How could that be. Its b/c when product is free, you can sell it at any cost.
Also, IH has there recall issues that are not known about b/c each time i tried to have a recall issued. I was ignored, almost lost my job. Here are some of the recalls that should be know about:
IH Maverick Full Suspension frames from 2006-2008 will all break b/c of a weak brace.
IH MKIII 2007 rear swingarms will all crack due to incorrect welding at the factory.
Please help and call the CPSC if you had this issue. http://www.cpsc.gov/about/contact.html
There is no Iron horse warranty on your bikes anymore. The online retailer may be able to break down some bikes to cover this up for a while but they have no pivots kits. They cannot order any frames from the factory anymore.
I read in Outdoor magazine that working at bicycle company was the 4th most enjoying job except at IH.
We had good people, we were bringing the brand back but greedy people did this to IH. From my understanding IH is bankrupt, they have no money, no nothing. There is no office. I had set it up to support DW bikes after the license was over but someone needed money and from what i know about the price of what it was sold for, it was chump change .
I am not an angry employee but a person who believes this needs to be brought up to others to see how it is. I have a job that pays me better than IH so let that me known as well as I enjoy my job way more.
There are so many things I could write but let me end off on this, I cannot be sued for this since it is 100% true. I have documentation to back up all of my claims.
Cliff W. is the reason IH is not here anymore as well as the online retailer that has the "great deals". I am sure that will be over as well. There is no support for you and I apologize. All in All working at IH has helped me meet some really great people like Ska todd and some of you. I had my good times and working at a company like this has shown me who to work for and who not to.
I just figured you guys should know the truth and for those who know me please contact me by PM and leave my name off of this thread.
I am willing to answer any questions you have but if you have a warranty issue I recommend contacting that online retailer and see what speech they have for you already.
The Poster: Wolvesinwolvesclothing was a 100% right in all his post that were removed.
Its a shame someone wants to threaten lawsuits over the truth. Just remember if you want to sue, you have to go on the stand as well. I guess like father like son.
Sell your horse or ride till its dead but from my stand point, I gave my bikes away as well as anything that had to do with IH. I am fine with my direction in life but I am sad for others like an employee who worked for that man for 26 years and got nothing, no appreciation. At one point years ago IH took there pension plan and spent it without the employers knowing it.
Good luck and I hope this clears things up. I know the online retailer sponsors this thread and MTBR and moderators please contact me for confirmation of everything i have written. I can confirm everything and back it up. If this thread is removed, it is because MTBR wants to keep getting paid by a fraud online retailor. I hope this stays but if it doesn't I recommend getting a new bike as well as going to another forum due to the conflict of interests.
Het hangt ervan af wat deze "liquidater" van plan is,The parts, frames, and pivot kits were sold to a liquidater.
of hij gaat de stock verdelen aan de retailers zodat bestaande klanten nog aan onderdelen kunnen geraken (zoalng het duurt),
of hij stopt het weg en duwt Iron Horse kompleet in het gat.
Ik denk dat we nu ook de reden hebben dat Sam Hill dada is.
Uit een heel andere categorie:
http://www.autoweek.nl/weblog/1643/Help-Opel-overleven
Maar met de zelfde soort voorgeschiedenis; mismanagement en speculeren met veel te veel geld door het moederbedrijf uit de US of A... Amerika de redder van de wereld? Laat me niet lachen... als er een land is wat de wereld naar de klote helpt...
http://www.autoweek.nl/weblog/1643/Help-Opel-overleven
Maar met de zelfde soort voorgeschiedenis; mismanagement en speculeren met veel te veel geld door het moederbedrijf uit de US of A... Amerika de redder van de wereld? Laat me niet lachen... als er een land is wat de wereld naar de klote helpt...
Wie rijdt er dan ook in een slOpelkadetillacSteelboy schreef:Uit een heel andere categorie:
http://www.autoweek.nl/weblog/1643/Help-Opel-overleven
Maar met de zelfde soort voorgeschiedenis; mismanagement en speculeren met veel te veel geld door het moederbedrijf uit de US of A... Amerika de redder van de wereld? Laat me niet lachen... als er een land is wat de wereld naar de klote helpt...
?Volgens dit bericht zou er wat te snel conclusies getrokken zijn.
Het zou gaan om het overkoepelend bedrijf dat failliet is, maar dat er sprake is van andere eigenaars voor Iron Horse en de andere getroffen bedrijven.
Het zou gaan om het overkoepelend bedrijf dat failliet is, maar dat er sprake is van andere eigenaars voor Iron Horse en de andere getroffen bedrijven.
Volgense week nieuwe episode in het verhaaltje.He told us that Iron Horse's parent company has gone bust, but assured us that the brand looks set to be sold to a new owner.
Martin insisted that, contrary to internet gossip, warranties would be honoured and people with Iron Horse bikes would still be able to get replacement parts.
He told us: "The truth is that World Wide Cycle Supply, the company that owns the Iron Horse brand, along with K2, Columbia Sportswear and Jeep Bikes, has gone bust. K2, Columbia and Jeep have been sold to a new company formed by Worldwide employees called East Coast Cycle Supply.
"The Iron Horse brand will be sold to somebody – the deal is being done at the moment – so although people are saying Iron Horse has 'gone under' that's not the case at all. Iron Horse will continue, it'll just have a different owner. We don't know who it is yet, but we should know next week."
Martin insisted Iron Horse owners had nothing to worry about, saying: "We (Iron Horse's UK importers Jim Walker) will continue to do warranties in the UK and we are planning to continue forward with Iron Horse. Whoever buys Iron Horse, we will continue to work with them.
"We don't want Iron Horse customers to panic. We will continue to service their bikes and we still have parts. A lot of the stuff that's been said on forums isn't accurate. Hopefully we'll be able to make some kind of announcement next week."
got this off the tubes, clear anything up??
Bron: Dirtmag.co.ukThe internet forums have been ablaze today with news of the demise of Iron Horse bikes, but there has been nothing official from the company itself. So we've done a bit of ringing around and this is what we have learnt. It appears that Iron Horse's parent company World Wide Cycle Supplies (a group that also includes Columbia bikes, Jeep bikes and K2 bikes) has gone bust. And it seems that those three companies, Columbia, Jeep and K2, have been sold to a new company possibly made up of former employees. Now Iron Horse itself seems to be in a bit of limbo. It is not sold as yet, but could be bought soon, maybe as early as next week. As we said, none of this information is official or confirmed, so things may change.
We would also like to make it clear that for UK Iron Horse distributor, Jim Walker, it is business as usual, no need to panic.
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just read this on the bicycleretailer site.
"Three Asian factories for Iron Horse Bicycle Company have filed an involuntary petition for bankruptcy against the bike company in an effort to recoup more than $5 million in back debt."
The petition for relief under Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection was filed March 2 on behalf of Fairly Bike Manufacturing Co., Ltd, of Tuchen City, Taiwan, Shenzhen Bo-An Bike Co., Ltd., of Shenzhen, China, and Acetrikes Bicycle Co., of Taicang City, Taiwan, in the Eastern New York district of U.S. Bankruptcy Court.
According to the filing, Iron Horse owes Fairly $1.44 million; Shenzhen $2.76 million; and Acetrikes $942,500, and did not pay debts as they became due."
"Three Asian factories for Iron Horse Bicycle Company have filed an involuntary petition for bankruptcy against the bike company in an effort to recoup more than $5 million in back debt."
The petition for relief under Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection was filed March 2 on behalf of Fairly Bike Manufacturing Co., Ltd, of Tuchen City, Taiwan, Shenzhen Bo-An Bike Co., Ltd., of Shenzhen, China, and Acetrikes Bicycle Co., of Taicang City, Taiwan, in the Eastern New York district of U.S. Bankruptcy Court.
According to the filing, Iron Horse owes Fairly $1.44 million; Shenzhen $2.76 million; and Acetrikes $942,500, and did not pay debts as they became due."